Where Anyone is Possible
Okay i know i havn't 'been' active a lot, or paying attention to rolepages, and it's because of one small little thing, okay maybe three. No wonder half the new people have stoped going ic and main chat is so slow and under used and everyone is starting to lurk, and know what. It's because of these two problems i'm having with a lot of people, i'm not gonna tell you what to do, whats right or wrong, just suggest, and beg and plead right now. I know i've done these discussions before but know what, this one makes a lot of sense, recently i made a new account name of which shall not be stated and tried getting into some rp since this happened to Rom, figured people were just bored with him, BOY was i wrong. What i discovered is this, Cliques, groups of friends don't want to rp with anyone not in that small little three or four person group, be more receptive, let the new peeps in, let them rp, we have 60 people on a night anymore, and how many are rping? five? Six? at most sometimes? No, thats not alright not in my book. Stop ignoring people, let them rp with you, be more friendly to them, sure we got a lot of noobs, but try to work with them, help teach them, i was new, a noob and once a bunny to, why should they be any diffrent than me? And secondly, ignoring people whats up with that everyone? And i don't wanna hear, Oh i missed the post, oh sorry i didn't see it, i'm gonna call bs on that because of this one fact, I posted earlier with my new character and someone claimed to miss not one BUT three of my posts, When there were only like five people IC! Really? no one else talking? my post right above yours? You didn't even take a glance at it people, why? Cause it's new, you don't want to deal with the bunnys, but you know what? The bunnys are gonna stay bunnys unless YOU and ME work with them! OMG I know it's a insane consept! And if we DO more people will start rping again! OMG OMG OMG It's insane i know! It's so hard to even wrap my mind around! D: I can't do it! Oh wait, thats what this entire thing is about, so i did, dun dun dun, so if i can do it, you can to, just drop the person a pm and ask if they would like some help fitting in, we've all been new here, WE all know how hard it can be, so why not lend a hand like what was lent to you? Ya know? not that hard. Just a pm, being friendly, a simple question and some time. Please, please please, try and listen, or help, i beg of you, i plead, and if you read this and will try, i thank you. =D
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I already do this Rom. I was there before too. There are some people who tell you to buzz off though. You really want me to be nice to people who tell me, literally, to F*** off for trying to be nice? Even when I politely continue by saying "Hey, just trying to help is all, no offense meant." and still getting told "Fuck off! I'm doing it my own way" yada yada yada. I don't exclude people on purpose, but if they want to be like that I'm not going to be nice constantly.
I understand what you're saying, new characters shouldn't be ignored for no reason and I don't do that, but for existing characters, sometimes it's because they pissed you off a bit too much.
Nonono not the meaning at all Xander, this entire thing is about people out right ingoring people because they don't belong to the cliques, the third probelm is something we olbies should just do outta respect for the help we had, or the regs, but what i'm talking about is that even if you don't read the entire post, skim it for a mention of yourself, not utterly ignore the post because it came from someone who could be brand new to the site, thats what this is all about, if someone is trying to rp with you, good or bad at least try to rp with them, they'll get the hang of it, Rom can't rp ic i can't even rp ith him without talking to myself for HOURS, thats whats driving me nuts, i thought it was because everyone is bored with him, no thats not it at all, they just don't read posts, and claim they miss them. Thats what i'm calling out, it doesn't apply to everyone, what i've found out is theres only a two groups of people that rp with everyone, Lex's players, and the Zagurians, and i love you guys for that, everyone else.. Not so much, you all know who you are, and again i plead with you to stop, i beg i beg i beg!
Yeah, I've called some of the Zagurian's out on it once and they realized they sometimes cut out people for no reason. But I've been working on fixing this problem if I could. I mean, sometimes I'm adverse like that.... But normally that's only if I'm completely in a bleh mood, only on for a few minutes, or like I am now ICly and just a total arse. :P But yeah, I get what you're saying Rommy boy.
To be sincerely honest in this matter, Amadore is the way he is. If he, or myself, don't see ourselves answering another through either look or speech, it doesn't happen. Right now, I'm Lurker most of the tie because of the simple fact that I don't enjoy playing a bad guy all the time and because I get ignored icly by others when I do decide to go ic. I know that I should initiate rp with others and so I try to. Have there been those that I've ignored? Yes. Those individuals (who know who they are), remained the same no matter how much effort I put into it. I'm not a teacher. I'm a player. Do I help others? Yes. It's important to bring others into the story-line and I've done that with a few different characters. I don't get into main a lot because I honestly don't have a reason to at that precise moment. If you have ideas, you can bring it to me. At the moment, if you think back to when I played Augustus, I came into the tavern all throughout the day to keep others involved. No matter what they were. Noobies, bunnies, and or veterans of the site. Thanks for putting this discussion up, Rom. I won't rant any more. Just had to get this off of my chest.
I'll be the first to admit I have a horrible habit of going Apeshit because someone bunnies a character into some bullshit char from an overly popular anime. Yes, I realize that Girlycard comes from the show Hellsing, but I put so much work and effort into it, I stick with her powers and avoid using anything else. I just get angry because I feel like nobody is learning anything. When I first came here I was a wreck, and I agree that some interaction can inspire, but the interaction is offered and they ignore it, they question why they're ignored. How am I supposed to deal with that? I worked so hard to build up my character into what she is today, she's become a personal connection to me that I can't bring myself to get rid of, and these guys just put on all this copied junk and can't stick to something original. My character has shadow powers that can unleash tendrils of darkness, she can also use shadows for teleportation. That's about it. I don't ask for fights, I don't parade around my character or her powers. I just find it so obnoxious that I want to kill someone for changing it all up. I'm beginning to lose hope in these guys. I try not to follow a Clique, because it's something I hate being forced on, hell I hate the word clique. We encourage, and they ignore and they whine..For the love of god, Help me Rom.
Amadore was integral in helping me develop Claudia, and Thak too. If it wasn't for their help, she'd never be what she is today. I am pretty new. I think I have a month under my belt. I am very grateful to Amadore, Thak, Vlad, Karen, Delilah and Girly for reaching out to me when I first came. I understand what it is like to be new very well. That all being said, the way some new people are going about things really is grating. When I decided to become a member of the community at large I started off observing, I read some OOC forum posts to see what NOT to do, and I POLITELY approached people and asked for help understanding the ins and outs. I tried to add something to conversations that was helpful and not just about 'me', I PMed people to see if they were free to be approached, I took time to learn about them and listen so we'd have something to talk about when I did. I asked questions about them and tried to start actual conversations and even when I did just sit quietly, I posted my musings on what I was observing so people knew I was interested. I put effort into fitting in here, but it wasn't hard.
I have people on an ignore list. They are people who have been rude, disruptive, and bratty. If someone comes up to me, mid conversation with another player or when Claudia is clearly emotional and invested in something, and starts to bleed all over her and demand attention and that I 'save' them, help them, or otherwise try to make it all about them when they don't know my name or I theirs... I am going to ignore that. Because A.) It's what Claudia would do and B.) I deal with self-absorbed children IRL all day, I don't want to do it here too. I also don't tend to respond to random rants about things that have no bearing on me or my character (Snowfort is a litte different since he loves everyone), if someone wants to talk to Claudia/Snowfort, ask a question and pick a topic of mutual interest. I think it's great, Rom, that you are willing to help and work with these people, and in the spirit of following your example, if anyone wants my help fitting in or understanding how best to approach my char, I will happily offer it. But remember, noobies, it's NOT all about you, you are not the BAMF of Rpages, and a little of respect and effort will get you a very long way. Don't whine and expect everything to be given to you. Respect and friendship are earned.
I'll go ahead and say Girly does lotsa things right in regard to this. Honestly, if you really do wanna stop people from sticking to their own tiny little groups, you should put in a lot of effort yourself. Ranting at everyone never does anything but if you are interested in helping out, roleplay as many people as can, whenever you can, within the limits of your character's personality. Become a hub of connections that connects so many different cliques together, try to break the ice and the barriers and re-introduce these people to each other and get them to start interacting broadly again!
Never forget, change takes effort. A rant may open eyes to the problem, but it doesn't mean people will do anything about it!
I agree with Rommy on this one, and girly makes a good point as well. i would say i have never ever purposefully ignored anyone on main chat or this site just because "i don't like them" or something stupid like that, because well even if i don't like the player of a character it doesn't mean my character herself does. my rl feelings have no place within my rp character. that's what i have alway's r'ped like and stayed by. the only problem i have is when someone pm's you weather a newbie to the site. or a long-term standing player here for an RP and then seconds after you agree they just vanish. even after posting a number of times beforehand. like they don't expect you'll think much of it. when infact you may have been really interested in it and all hopeful about what will happen next. kind of puts a bit of a downer on your day eh?...Godmodders i also dislike, but i'll ignore this when r'ping and instead readjust my own strategy's or character to handle their godmodding way's instead of shouting out in main chat "OH YOUR A GODMODDER!" and embarrassing the hell out of them. and possibly making them give up rp'ing ever again. i'm accepting to every new player and will adjust my play style or ways to better suit them. to make the rp fun. if someone approach's dracy in the tavern i will "NOT" ignore or look the other way to anyone. my character will alway's interact. albeit dracy's personality is difficult to deal with but i implore people to hang in there and don't give up because of that. since she gradually open's up over time. what xander said i do also agree with when your told plainly to "F*ck off" for trying to help someone. even when you continue to be nice afterward's might just make you a bit un-motivated to ever want to associate with them afterwards. feelings and all...and on a last note LOVE YOU ALL! X3
::ignores this conversation and goes to hang out with the cool people::
Ergh. I hate to be the bitch here, but Rom. You did ignore all of my characters for the first year that I played them, if not longer. And it is hard sometimes to reach out to people, but whenever there is a new member, I try to welcome them to the best of my ability. Recently I've seen a lot of people freaking out because new members will use text talk. My suggestion is to go into PM's and ask them to roleplay with you a bit and explain to them what not to do, which if anyone's noticed, I've been doing that for the past few weeks. It really does help if you explain it to them privately instead of ruining a good IC roleplay with OOC yelling and slandering. As for ignoring, I've noticed a lot of people ignore GC, Rom, Amadore at times, and others. A lot of people ignore Luna. And I find myself not going IC unless I know someone in there for that very reason. But, if you are being ignored, my advice is whoever you post to, tell them in PM's. It does help. I've found myself having to do that on more than on occasion. Playing as Akuma, Dominic ignored me 3 or 4 times, on accident. It wasn't till I PMd him that he realized it and he went back, read through everything, and sincerely apologized. Sometimes people do miss posts that are like that, the chat does get really messy with even 4 people in roleplay.
I agree with delily, rommy sucks! If only we could do sumtin about that jerk everything would be better :P