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Okay, Im hoping to start a small discussion quickly about what people deem OPing, or Over-Powering, in combat and spars.
Personally I think that there are alot of new people showing up who are extremely OP to start with and I am trying to figure out something in all honesty.
Most people say "Its okay that (Insert random older character here) is OP because they have been here a while and put alot of effort into developing their character." But my question is, at what point do you reach the point where its okay to do what would be seen as God Modding to newer players? I mean, lets look at someone who inherintly has power, such as Titus. Most people call Titus a GodModder in private because hes so Overpowered, but I understand his point however, he has put a ton of time and effort into Titus so he has every right to use the powers he has acquired in doing so.
But my main question is, at what point do we have the right to decide when someone has put effort enough into a character to be so highly powered? For instance, I have been here a little over 6 months now, is that enough time? What is the minimum time limit?
Any insight here from other people would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time.
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Permalink Reply by Douglass MacKenna on December 23, 2011 at 2:30pm Most of the older players here have been playing their characters for years, Xander. Because of that, they've gained power from both other players along the way and from constant shifts and troubles throughout the story. Sure, it's a thing with time, but no. There is no specific shift on power. You should understand that if someone has been here longer then you, that you aren't meant to defeat them just to do so. Newer characters should shift the win in each battle so that it goes in favor with the older character. That's my point of view. Battles aren't meant as some type of competition, but as a tool to have a more extreme, exciting time in roleplaying. As soon as you look at the power levels between players, as well as who wins and what not, you've lost the whole point in doing it and should stop while you're ahead. Take it from this point of view. Titus didn't get that powerful over night. He had to go through countless missions and troubles as a character, through trouble within his clan, the void wars and even a few others. All the while, he was constantly working at making this place funner for us all. Sure, some people are going to talk behind his back, some will even ignore him because they believe he's a godmoder, but all they're doing is making themselves look bad.
Power is here for a reason and just because you think that you deserve it because you've been here for two months, or even three, doesn't mean that you're going to get it. Others here, like the veterans, have worked for their role in any storyline that they're involved in and I personally think that if you have a problem with how strong their character is, you should speak to them in PM's and let them tell you why they're that strong. May it be a power from Gaia, or simple strength they've acquired from time that they've played. Also, one more thing. The people you see in chat aren't just people. If you look closely, they decide whether you rise in power or not. Do you think that you'd win if none of them thought you were as powerful as you think your character is? No. You would not. That's just not how it works. Socialize like Titus does. He doesn't choose his specific enemies for ooc reasons, but more for knowledge of his character's likes and dislikes. I'm sure he'd even be friends with a demon if that demon was a good person icly. Now, I'm going to stop ranting because I think I've made my point. If I happened to insult anyone in this post, I apologize because that was not my intention.

There's a fine line between God-Modding, and having God Like powers. Yes, people have been here forever, yes, people have been working up the powers to get what they want. Personally, I can't stand these guys at all. For you to decide the powers you gain needs to have a backstory into it, there is no certain time or place for when you can or cannot, but you need to remember to do this over time instead of doing this in a big rush, even if not doing in a big rush happens to be overnight (ex. Vampirism, genetic mutation, etc.). How people see Titus as a godmodder blows my mind, (seeing as I have never seen him done such) Is pathetic. There are many people who are worse god modders who don't have the guts to admit it and blab about detail and such. For those that call Titus such, YOU ARE SORRY PEOPLE! Now that I have that off of my mind, in agreement to Xane, not everyone does get what they want in the story. I've been here for a year and haven't gotten involved in anything big, and others have been here shorter and have been better to the DMs. Take Thak for example, sure I've been here a few years, Thak is a genuine roleplayer though who's mature enough to go along with the story and follow the rules, and had caught the DMs attention. :)
Godmodders often don't realize that they are until they are told, and are often hurt and offended until someone explains how, I know I was. If you feel that someone is godmodding and they say that they worked their way up to gain the powers, please, ignore them and carry on about your day, its hard because even I'm guilty of throwing a fit over it.

In all honesty, I know that my character is over-powered. The reason being that my character has been in the hands of a lot of gods and been pushed through a whole bunch of storylines to gain those powers.
In order to compensate for those powers, I've made a lot of concessions and weaknesses. In order to use such and such power, this thing happens... I have a huge gaping weakness with one element, using this power lowers life expectancy, bad memory makes her unable to do something....
I find it's more fun to work with little powers than to work with tons of powers. You have to be creative. It's not about time limit, if you really feel you need to be over-powered in order to do anything, obtain a power through strenuous hardships, have a respectable background and engrave your story in stone with a multitude of people to back you up. It's not a popularity contest, but it's a creativity contest.

Well, in fairness to Titus, I have never seen him godmode against someone, if anything he is always beaten to the shit house after a fight. In saying this however, I have seen actual "God" characters, I do not have a problem with this because its what they want to be no matter how powerful they are, Hinatera is human because I wanted her human, I love the weakness because it also comes with strength: example, she can move through anti-magic without being effected, I think its mainly to do with the people behind the character not looking for positive aspects of their own characters so they pull details out of others.
Thats my point, short and sweet.
Permalink Reply by Akuma Kitsune on January 30, 2012 at 11:37am Personally, my other account has been here since rolepages started and she has yet to OP. In my opinion, it isn't right at all. Unless you're a 'god' as some people claim to be, then they have the power by the DM's to over power someone else. However, if it's just a one on one battle it shouldn't be allowed. I can understand OPing a NPC character such as if you're in a big war and there's multiple guards attacking you, then they relly have no powers. But over powering in general shouldn't be something based off of time and effort, you shouldn't do it regardless because there are some people who don't have the capability of figuring out fancy moves. <3
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